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Learning to Dad with Tyler Ross 028 - Ryan Hurst

Speaker 2: Oh, [00:00:30] right. How do you have a buddy learning to dab Tyler Ross. I'm Tyler Ross, and I am with I and Hearst advertiser turned bad-ass mover. And I was just telling him his Instagram. This is, oh, no, where'd it go? This is one of my favorite ones right here. Oh, Particularly the sound attract found

Speaker 3: My cameraman. Yeah, it was, that was a lot of fun. So that's pretty recent. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Yeah. Ryan Hurst on Instagram. It's a lot of [00:01:00] fun. It's great to meet you, man. I appreciate your time today. Yeah, you're uh, you're in Japan now.

Speaker 3: That is correct. I'm in Osaka. Uh, I've been here. I've been in Osaka. What? I don't know about 25 years now, I guess. So, uh, went to school over here, ended up staying, you know, can't escape. So married. Uh, my wife is Japanese and we have two kids age 11 and nine. And uh, [00:01:30] yeah, like I was just say it's summer break. So, uh, my son is hanging out here with me at the, uh, the gym studio. Man-cave whatever you want to call it. So

Speaker 2: Yeah. So ju so GMB gold metal bodies did that was born in Japan, in Osaka,

Speaker 3: Kind of. So I was actually involved with the different fitness organization before GMV. And so what I would do is I would go around the world teaching and whatnot, and I actually met Jarlo Elano we [00:02:00] met online through this fitness organization. This is like, I don't even know how long, like maybe 15 years ago. And, um, yeah, I was out teaching and, uh, during a break during this, uh, seminars teaching Darla was there too. And, uh, afterwards we were in the car going home and, uh, during one of the break, I was kinda messing around, you know, doing my own thing. And in the car ride back, Darla was like, Hey man, you need to be teaching that stuff. And so in the car ride back and we came up with a company and, uh, Jarlo Navy [00:02:30] gold medal bodies. Now we just go by GMB fitness now.

Speaker 3: But yeah. So in that car ride back basically Jarlo was like, yeah, let's do a company. And so we started it here in Japan though. Andy faucet, the three of us kind of started it together, to be honest, really. It was like Jarlo. And I like Jarlo basically came up with this idea and Jarlo, and I realized right away we can't run a company. And so, and, uh, Andy's, you know, the brains behind the vision, things like that. [00:03:00] So, um, yeah, it's grown. So we started, the three of us kind of started off just a, I guess you'd say kind of at a whim and just trying to see how it would go. And bam grew into this huge thing and we're up to a 23 full-time employees right now, which is pretty crazy, but, uh, that's amazing. That's good stuff. Good stuff. And so we started it when we started it.

Speaker 3: It was the, the goal really in the beginning it was just so we could like support our families. That's what it was. And so, you know, [00:03:30] I started it when we started, I guess I was, let's see, I'm 46 right now. So it's nine years. We're on our ninth year. So almost 10 years ago, you know, 36 years old. And, and, uh, I come off of, uh, I had surgery, reconstructive surgery. I completely blew my shoulder out in judo. I came over here for martial arts for Japan and, uh, and I quit and I was just focusing on the fitness side of things and you know, very, my daughter [00:04:00] and I, my son was born at that time too. He's just born. It's a very, very, very young. And so I'm like, Hey to my wife, Hey baby. Gonna quit my job and start this new company.

Speaker 3: It's going to be great. She was like, are you crazy? But she supported me and it worked out. Thank goodness. So, uh, yeah, but, uh, yeah, GMB is GMB was really just in the very beginning. We just trying to relate to guys like us, you know, guys who, who work, you know, and it's not like they have all day long [00:04:30] to do fitness. They have a family and they want to take care of their family and they just want to be able to enjoy their life. And so that's really the focus of GMB. It still is. It's all about helping people to be able to do the stuff that they want to do, you know, without that fear of thinking that they have to be doing the fitness. And so even though we are a fitness company, we kinda, you know, think of ourselves more as an education company and helping people to better understand what they need for their life, [00:05:00] rather than telling them that they need to be working out a particular way or doing something that might not match their lifestyle.

Speaker 2: Relate to that. It's kind of the point of the podcast. There's no like handbook on your fitness or how to raise it. So like let's share and figure out what's right.

Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

Speaker 2: Something you've touched on that I'd love for you to kind of unbox a little bit, is your transition from, I believe you were an advertising or marketing into taking this new risk and being about the same time of having [00:05:30] a kid like that takes kind of a sack to say, I'm going to stop doing, what's paying the bills and go create some, I mean, based on reading your story on your website, like you're so much happier and fulfilled now. Oh yeah. You're on that journey a little bit. Yeah.

Speaker 3: Yeah. So I actually, uh, I graduated from college or uni depending on where you are in the world. I'm in my, my major was advertising and Japanese. I ended up working for a Japanese [00:06:00] company for exactly one year. And I was like, yeah, this ain't going to work. And during that time I was actually in the, it wasn't really the advertising department. It was more kind of like promotion kind of thing. And it just, it wasn't me. That was the first time in my life where I had not moved my body. Like I was so busy working for the Japanese company. Like I remember I would go in at 7:00 AM and because I was a [00:06:30] sheen you shine, which is, I'm like new guy. Right? And so over here, the new people, the first year in the company, they would go and up to clean the office and get ready for everybody else.

Speaker 3: So work would start at eight, who would literally work until like last train. And I did that six days a week. It was just killing me and there's no time for anything else. And I, after a year I quit and ended up working at a martial arts complex, uh, shrine and getting back into my martial art, you know, and, and the fitness side of things. [00:07:00] So even though I did, you know, graduate in advertising, I really didn't have any experience. I that one year of hell, that was about it. But then though I was working for this, this martial arts complex as a shrine for about eight years and my boss at the time, then he was like, Hey man, you need to be doing your own thing. He's like, you know, you're doing great venture out, do this. So like no experience running a business or doing anything like that.

Speaker 3: I started my own gym and started doing things like that. So [00:07:30] it was kind of like jumping into the deep end. And so even though I graduated with advertising, I didn't know anything at all. And luckily though I had some people around me that that helped out a lot. Andy was actually my client and that's how we met. And so through the fit side of things, again, I was, I got really involved with this other fitness organization, ended up working my way up to becoming the program director in that particular organization. And that's what allowed me to travel throughout the world. And I was certifying people in that particular [00:08:00] organization. And then, you know, I met Andy and Andy was here in Osaka and, uh, he was a client in the beginning. We became friends and, you know, he just has this amazing brain for, he gets it.

Speaker 3: I mean, he just, he gets, you know, he does his thing. I'm good at, you know, this Jarlo is really good at this. And the cool thing is coming to your question, coming back to your question. It wasn't a matter of me just simply [00:08:30] like saying, oh, I'm just going to quit everything I'm doing. And just jump in. I didn't quit my day job actually, you know, I still still worked and Jarlo still continued working as a physical therapist. Andy still continued working as a marketer, a consultant for other people. And we continued actually to do that like five years into the company. So, you know, I was, you know, not just me, but Andy Jarlo [00:09:00] and I were just busting our asses just to do all this stuff. Thing is when we'd started GMB, there wasn't any online fitness organizations out there. It was.

Speaker 3: So there wasn't. And so there were people doing things and, and like showcasing their services online, but it wasn't 100% online. So I think, I think it's pretty sure I'm pretty positive that we can [00:09:30] say that we were pretty much like burst 100% online. Only thing we did have DVDs, but we got rid of those quickly. And what we learned was this, you know, having that stock, uh, quality control, there were so many mistakes in these DVDs, uh, the manuals and stuff. So we just went 100% online and learned a lot. You know, I would come up with the programming, show it to Jarlo. He would just be like, yay or nay, or let's tweak [00:10:00] this. And then Andrew would be like, let's, let's think about it this way. You know, as far as how we can advertise it and promote it. And, and, you know, Andy and Jarlo did all the emails, you know, answered all of the support questions.

Speaker 3: And then I would design it, had this old video camera that was new at the time, of course, but, you know, compared now it's still the tapes, you know, and yeah, I would shoot it. I would edit it, put it up on YouTube [00:10:30] and just the three of us did literally everything. And, um, there's no way I could have done that by myself. And so what I'm getting at is, you know, going, looking at the experiences, the three of us, what do we have in common was the fact that we were teachers and, you know, Jarlo in the physical therapy side of thing, his, his teaching in the sense of he's a doctor of physical therapy. And so he was working with patients one-on-one every [00:11:00] single day. And Andy's background, um, here in Japan is he was an educator here in Japan and my background as far as teaching fitness.

Speaker 3: And, you know, that was my part-time job. When I was in high school, I was teaching I would practice, practice gymnastics, you know, and then right after I would teach, that was my part-time job. So our big thing that kind of like connects, this is the fact that we're educators and we've taught so many different people that we looked at what was out there. And we said, you know what? [00:11:30] We think there's, let's not maybe say a better way, but there wasn't the kind of thing out there that we wanted to be sharing. So we decided, okay, well, let's share it in this way. And so we've always tried to refine the way that we not only teach, but the way that we also present this to people and we just want it to be real. It's three people. It's not me. It's not even the three of us to be honest right now, it's all about [00:12:00] our clients and the people coming into GMB and just being true to ourself.

Speaker 3: And first and foremost, I mean, you know, we're dads, you know, all three of you are dads, all three of us, all three Jarlo has twins and he has little girl, you know, and I've got two kids, we're all very happily married. Um, you know, we know that our wives are in charge of everything and the boss. So we're cool with [00:12:30] that, you know, but the thing is it's, you know, working together and it's because it's the three of us. It's also taught us a lot about communication. It's well, as sacrificed, to be honest, because if we only did it the way that I wanted or only did it the way that Andy wanted or only did it, the way that Jarlo wanted, then we wouldn't be around anymore. And so I think that's a big thing in marriage as well. Right. You know, it's like, it's give and take.

Speaker 3: It's not, oh, it's going [00:13:00] to be my way. Or the highway is, if it's that way, then you won't be married anymore, basically. Right. So this kind of, you know, similar in the sense that know it's not all roses all the time with Andy Jarlo and I, we fight things and that's a good thing because we always move beyond that. And we look beyond that and we realize that it's more than just us. And so we work with each other in order to make it happen. And you know, our staff, [00:13:30] like I mentioned, we've got this big staff now. It's like our kids, there's certain, you know, I gotta be honest if they're listening, you know, sorry, but there's certain things they do where we're just like, seriously, you know, but the thing is is you love them and you want to help them. And so that's what you do.

Speaker 3: And you just try and be a better dad for them, you know, as a boss, as a leader and, you know, just like going into having, you know, I don't know about you, but when I found out [00:14:00] my wife was pregnant and I was going to be a dad, I freaked out. I was like, I can't do this. I don't know how to be a dad. Right. But the thing is, it's like anything, you just do the best you can. And you learn from your mistakes and, and you're going to make mistakes. We've made a lot of mistakes and GMB a lot. But I think that's a good thing because you know, it's not about like, it's about making mistakes faster and learning from them faster so that you don't do that same mistake later. And I think that's a big reason why we're [00:14:30] still around it is that, is that we've looked at what worked well and what didn't work well at all and move beyond that ego. And we're just like, all right, we got to change this because we don't know what the hell we're doing. So let's, let's figure out what we need to do and, uh, and move forward. So you have any recommendations or tricks

Speaker 2: To help people in like a collaborative business environment communicate better. I know like husbands and wives, or just talked to one of my best friends, [00:15:00] they go to therapy, you know, to help kids, you know, like,

Speaker 3: Yeah, man. Well, I will say like with my wife and I, something that we really focus on is we've, uh, before we got married, we had one big argument. We actually split up. Um, but the thing was, is like we got back together. Cause we were just like, whoa, what was going on? What was the real reason that this argument happened? And then when we got married, we decided, [00:15:30] okay, we're going to talk. We're actually going to say, all right, what is really going on? And so there are times, a lot of times where I would bring my work home with me and she knew that. And so she was like, all right, you're being a real Dick right now. And she's like, this is not the issue what's going on with work. And so then we would work that out. So I think it's similar with work as well.

Speaker 3: I think the big thing I think is figuring out what you're really good at and I'm [00:16:00] talking about work right now. Figure out what you're really good at and what you're not good at. Okay. And there are times in a business, if you're just starting off a business, you're going to have to wear many, many hats. And as I mentioned in the very beginning of GMB, Andy Jarlo and I, we had to be able to pretty much do everything. So it wasn't yes. I was shooting the videos. Yes. I was editing them. But Jarlo, and Andy also knew a little bit about how to edit those fit if they knew a little [00:16:30] bit about how to shoot and things like that. Cause we all had to, as you start to get better though, it's, it's one of those things where you need to find a person that's really good at the stuff that you suck at and then as well, you do need to know a little bit about that so that you can communicate.

Speaker 3: And so it can be very easy to say, okay, this is what I'm really good at. And this is the most important thing. A lot of people might do that. And we all think that [00:17:00] our thing is the most important, but you have to understand that it all needs to work together in order to be successful. And so that means that you need to listen and you need to be open to what that other person is saying. And it doesn't mean that you need to agree with everything that they're saying all the time, but you just need to think about, okay, what is the big picture that we're after here? It's sometimes that means not maybe doing some of the things that you wanted to do before [00:17:30] and making, I don't want to say a sacrifice sincerely, but let's say, okay, I'm willing to try this and see how this goes.

Speaker 3: And the cool thing is make, for example there. Well, there are times where you're going to realize that there's no point in you actually saying anything. If you don't have anything worth sharing, that's going to be constructive to that particular conversation [00:18:00] then don't, um, it takes a lot of discipline. It really does. It's tough. And I gotta be honest. There are times where I should probably say more, but again, you know, a great example is Andy's our CEO now. And so, you know, he's been our CEO for officially. He's always, he's always been the CEO, but we never consider herself a accompany. You know? So it was like, but yeah, he's a CEO now. And so he makes he, you know, he's the one who makes us big [00:18:30] decisions. And so Andy Jarlo and I will talk about it, but it's really, it's him, you know, that is, is, uh, the head of a company, if you will, with making, uh, and then, you know, understanding that it has to be that one person as the head, even though yeah.

Speaker 3: Jarlo and I in the car, when we S we started GMB, but really we brought Andy in to run the company, [00:19:00] let him run the company. And, and that can be really tough. And it's an ego kind of thing. And again, it's not to say that we don't have opinions, but it's trust in the process, I guess, is what I'm really trying to get at is a big thing that we talk about in GMB in that process. Is that just in business, it's, it's in, when you're, when you're exercising, when you're doing the fitness, it's what is the plan? Okay. Spend time working and figuring out exactly what you want. What do you really want? [00:19:30] Figure out how you can get there, figure out what's going to help you to get there, following your values. And what's important to you construct that plan and then follow the plan.

Speaker 3: And unfortunately, a lot of people though, they start to do that plan and they're like, oh wow, this doesn't feel right. Or in the exercise side of things, they do it for a couple of weeks. They start to get bored with it. So they want to do a new plan and then they try and do a new plan and [00:20:00] they're just doing something different. And then they were like, oh, okay. And they do something different. And the thing is, is they never get to where they want to go because they're not really sticking with it and trusting in that particular plan. And so that's why, like in GMB, what we'll do is our work cycles, the way that we work, we, okay, this is our goal. And our goal is not like 10 years down the road or five years or anything like that. We have these, these short spurts, if you, where will, where [00:20:30] we can actually take time to go, okay, this is where we want to go.

Speaker 3: We're going to do it. Let's see if this is going to work out. We give it enough time to make sure that we can test it. And then, then if we realize it's not working, then we can tweak it slightly, but we don't just throw it away and start over. And I think, you know, that's, that's a huge thing is that communication ego can get in the way of things, you know, where are you really after, and like goals for our company? [00:21:00] A lot of our goals aren't necessarily like, well, they're not, money's important. You've got to have money and things like that. But a lot of the things, our values and making sure that we're sticking with our values, making sure that our main goal of, you know, us getting GMB and spreading the love and that to us as our big overall goal.

Speaker 3: So how can we achieve that rather than just saying, how can we hit [00:21:30] a gazillion dollars next year? You know what I mean? So again, that money, you need to have that money to keep things running. It's very important. It's very important. And if you're not hitting your numbers, because we track everything, I mean, like crazy, but the thing is it's okay, why is this not working? And then sometimes it's not just that, that number issue, it's that, you know, looking at your kids, like I mentioned, our staff, okay, are they happy? Are they getting what they need in order to [00:22:00] accomplish and perform their job? Um, do they believe in it? Are they still, again, as I mentioned earlier, happy with what they're doing, and of course happiness can be very different in terms of what's going on, but, you know, take care of your, take care of your family.

Speaker 3: First, you take care of your family, then things are going to be okay. And so that, that's what we've always really focused on because it's always been a family oriented company and, [00:22:30] and I am kind of rambling and I apologize, but, um, but yeah, this is just kinda how it is for us. And so we're not your typical company where we're just trying to bring people in and just be like, yeah, we need somebody to run this. Okay, great. And then we just turn them loose. They have to be a fit for our company. And unfortunately we've had, especially over the past couple of years, we've had people who come in who are lovely people, but just weren't a fit for GMB. And that's great because [00:23:00] we would rather have a person working at a place that fits them and works for them instead of having them be unhappy and not a fit for what we're after. So it's like that with a family too. I mean, you know, if my son, if something's wrong with my son, I'm not just going to be like, ah, just do your job kid. It's like, okay, what's going on? You know, what is the real issue that's going on here? And then you help them out, make sure that they're able to be a [00:23:30] kid instead of a little robot.

Speaker 2: Yeah. That's, uh, I like the kind of way you painted your company as being a family like that kind of a patriarch in a sense. Sometimes you tell them what to do. Sometimes you help them do something and sometimes you get out of the way and let that be awesome.

Speaker 3: So there's no, we do have some, a lot of sorry to interrupt. I mean, and, and, you know, don't get me wrong. We're not all sitting around the campfire, singing kumbaya. I mean, you know, even within the family, you're going to have certain like [00:24:00] dynamics and things like that, but that's a good thing because we're all able to communicate. I think that's really what makes it work.

Speaker 2: Yeah. So is your company based in Japan? Is that where your 32 employees are?

Speaker 3: No. No. We, um, we're 100% online company. Uh, I'm located on all SACA Andy CEO's located in Tokyo. He just happened to move back to Japan. He was in Hawaii for quite a while. Uh Jarlo um, COO [00:24:30] he's located in Seattle and yeah. And so every I'm trying to think. We don't have anyone who lives in the same city, so all over the world, like literally all over the world and, um, you know, Europe, United States, Canada, you know, all over.

Speaker 2: So these, these are employees that service the company, not necessarily certified trainers.

Speaker 3: Uh, no. [00:25:00] Yeah, both. And so because of what we do, because it is a fitness organization. So for example, um, support support is huge in our company. In terms of that, you send a message to us, you're going to have a live person, respond to it, and that person is, has they're specialized in what they do. So for example, if you send a PR, send us a question related to a training question, then one of my trainers [00:25:30] is going to answer that a trainer who's on staff. And I know the other thing too, is we encourage all of our staff members to actually go through what we call the apprenticeship chip. And so it's a four month process to become certified, to become a GMB trainer. It's not a weekend certification, you know, got to put in the time, really learn how to be the best instructor you can be. And so even though, um, our staff members might not teach in terms of go out [00:26:00] and open their studio and teach that way. Uh, we do encourage all of our staff members to go through that process because like anything, you know, they need to know what's going on in GMB. And so, um, anytime you get a reply regarding training or, or any of the fitness side of stuff, it's from one of our certified trainers, who's on staff.

Speaker 2: Um, I'm very impressed with the program. Uh I've I have a real [00:26:30] estate company. I do this podcast. I got two kids, lots of other stuff, but I'm a workout junkie and I got to go get certified. And if I was going to get certified, I would either do it with you or check and

Speaker 3: Awesome, man, thank you so much.

Speaker 2: Thanks. So highly of what you're trying to do, what you are doing and just the way that you guys move, uh, you know, it was amazing. I mean, find a 25 year old that can move [00:27:00] like you and a lot of your students and trainers.

Speaker 3: Well, I really appreciate it again. I mean, we're not your typical fitness kind of organization where you just go to the gym and work out. It's really just trying to help people move better. That's it that's really it. And, um, you know, whether it be surfing, whether it's snowboarding, you know, rock climbing, just playing with your kids, it doesn't matter. It's just like, what do you need? And I think that's unfortunately, sometimes missing [00:27:30] out there, you know? And, and that's, that's what we're just trying to do is basically be like, all right, here's stuff that's going to help you to be able to do the other stuff in your life. And that's what it's about. So, yeah.

Speaker 2: That's awesome. We'll talk to me about, um, martial arts. I know you do judo, you do jujitsu. Uh, I saw several other listed in your

Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. I got, uh, yeah, again, you know, I, I, I started martial art. [00:28:00] Well, I did gymnastics. I started gymnastics very early age and that was my thing until I was 18 years old. But, um, even during that time I got into martial arts. So I was studying martial art and that's what really got me to Japan. And, um, I came over to Japan. I was up in the Northern part of Japan, a place called Niigata. I went to the uni, a university there, a sister school. I went to a sister school as an exchange student and I ended up staying [00:28:30] and, um, that got me over here so that I could train martial arts because I wanted to go deeper into it. So I was doing Kendo and judo and, um, my Keno instructor just took a liking to me. I ended up moving in with his family.

Speaker 3: And so, um, it was very lucky. It's called Uchi dashi, kind of like live in student kind of thing. And, um, thanks to that. You know, my Japanese really helped me, my Japanese boss, martial art, and thanks to him that also helped [00:29:00] me for when, um, you know, for getting my foot in the door to work at this particular, uh, martial arts complex here and all soccer. So, you know, I graduated and went back to the United States for like six months, a sister school exchange thing. So, you know, you have to go back and finish up one semester, all that black, but I was ready. I was like, yeah, let me just stay in Japan. So I went back, graduated, came right back. Um, so I was working at the shrine. It was really cool because, uh, there were some [00:29:30] of the top instructors in Osaka at this particular shrine, um, this martial arts complex at the time.

Speaker 3: And so I ended up partaking and pretty much not all of them, but, but for the most part, a lot of those classes cause they needed someone to help interpret. And so they would have a lot of people, especially from Europe that would visit, uh, that wanted to participate in these classes and they needed [00:30:00] someone who could do this interpretation. And so I would show up in these classes, basically just get my kicked every single day for it. It was great. And so like, I mean, you know, it's like anything do something long enough and you're going to achieve a certain level. And so that's why I've got, you know, what like five or so black belts just from simply doing all this stuff. So, you know, did that, judo was my big thing. I just absolutely loved judo, [00:30:30] uh, Olympic style, judo alike.

Speaker 3: I think it's good. I changed a lot now. I mean, whatever, but, um, uh, I really enjoyed what's called Cole San judo, which is, it's a little bit different. It was, you know, basically before the Olympic cell judo. And so it's basically like you throw the guy on the ground and then you start grappling until somebody taps out. So that was basically what I really enjoyed. I was very lucky because I had the opportunity, uh, through my Kendo that I worked with the police. And so that led to [00:31:00] allowing me to, uh, work with the police team for judo. So I ended up going to a different place to do judo. Um, I went to amino tofu, which is the, um, uh, the police. What do you call it in? English is horrible. It wasn't the headquarters, but it was just basically like, it was, you know, they had really good, uh, judo team.

Speaker 3: So, uh, did you know, with them and that also go to the Osaka castle and so twice a week I would go and train [00:31:30] it, which was amazing. Here's uh, a guy from Wichita, Kansas, you know, walk in and go into this castle to do judo. It was just so cool. And so I got to do that and then, uh, got really into a show to NG Campo, what like second, third degree, black belt. Yeah. Third degree black belt. And that, it was just, again, it was just because doing it for so long and then, you know, did all of that and, um, ended up [00:32:00] going into GMB and it was kind of like, okay, my judo career was done cause I blew my shoulder out. I did share NG Campbell, but it was one of those things where I needed to focus on the business and not getting injured.

Speaker 3: And I was just beat up and I was too exhausted. So I took a little break from martial arts for a little bit, but then I got back into Brazilian jujitsu and that's really my passion now for martial art. And the thing is, again, it's like, I know I'm not going to be world champion or anything like that. And totally [00:32:30] cool with that right now. It's not about the belt at all. And I can't say that. I mean like a lot of people, like they just say, oh, it's not about the bell, you know, but I mean, really it's like, I don't give a anymore. You know, I've been there, I've competed in judo and, and Kendo and everything. And it was just like, I simply want to do it for the enjoyment, the pure enjoyment of it. And I want to be able to do it for as long as I can.

Speaker 3: And so that's why I only train once, maybe [00:33:00] twice a week now. And the reason for that is there's other stuff in life that I want you to be doing. And, you know, again, I used to train, like when I was doing martial art, I would train multiple martial arts and I was doing multiple practices a day and I did this like almost seven days a week for years. And again, it was one of those things where it's like been there, done that. It was wonderful, but I got a family now and, and you know, my son does jujitsu with me [00:33:30] sometimes, but he also likes to go rock climbing. So I make sure that we can go rock climbing and my daughter does swimming and things like that. So there are other things in my lap that I want to do. And so with GMB, that's really, I keep bringing it back to GMB, but my GMB allows me to continue to be able to do that. So it's not this kind of like the, uh, what would that raise your company? I'm not only the founder. I'm also, [00:34:00] nah, it was like way back when it was like, I'm not only founder, but I'm um, oh, hair club for men hair club for men. That's what it was.

Speaker 3: I still like GMB for me is like, it allows me to continue doing this. And so that's kind of where it is, but martial art. Yeah. It's Jarlo and Andy, you know, we've got that education background, but the thing is all from martial art. And so the three of us are, [00:34:30] you know, martial artists. That's, that's really what it's about. And martial art plays a huge part in GB. I mean, we don't advertise it as that or anything like that, but as our Mahershala has such a profound influence on how we teach and how we've set things up in GMB. And if you are a martial artist, you probably see that within there. And so it's just a lot of fun, you know, and even, you know, Jarlo now it's, even though we, we trained and we competed [00:35:00] for so long, um, our passions are a little bit different.

Speaker 3: They've changed. So like Jarlo right now, you've mainly focuses on teaching women's self-defense, uh, Andy, Andy's what I think he's 50 he's fifth degree, black belt in Tido. And his thing right now is he's, you know, looking more at it, moving into more of like a leadership role within Tido. So it's, it's changed and it's really cool as you, as you age and how you can still be involved with things, but it's different than just the ego centric thing of wanting to [00:35:30] like take a guy down and choke them out. You know, it's still fun. I like doing that, but you know, it's like, it's different now, you know? So it's just like when you age with your kids and so getting the kids involved and, and, and doing new things with them.

Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm a, I'm 10 classes into Brazilian jujitsu. And, uh, I think my, yeah, I'm loving it. I'm hooked. I tweaked my neck two weeks ago, but I'm taking private. So the guy doesn't play it on my neck still, but [00:36:00] the personal growth and just 10 classes, I can feel already. My question for you is going to be pretty specific and like, how does martial arts impact your business? Absolutely

Speaker 3: Great

Speaker 2: Fitness part, but like how does a martial artist go be a great real estate agent or bowling alley attendant or shoe salesman or whatever?

Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know what I mean? The one thing that, that I think [00:36:30] that's great is the fact, and we can talk about this in terms of Brazil changes. It's a, for any of those out there who are listening, you know, you'll get this right away, but by learning to be comfortable in an uncomfortable position, it allows you, it allows you to get clarity in the sense that you don't rush and you into, uh, reacting a particular way. And so what you do is you can actually take the time and be [00:37:00] comfortable to allow yourself to say, okay, what is my best option here rather than just lashing out and just freaking out and you know, and you know exactly what I'm saying. I mean, you know, you're 10 classes in, and there are times where, you know, I'm really also happy to hear that you're doing private lessons because in the very beginning, that's when most people get injured. My advice to you also quickly, uh, tap soon and tap often. Okay. Tap soon and tap off, say

Speaker 2: [00:37:30] It out loud too. Yeah.

Speaker 3: You don't want to get hurt, but it's an ego thing. And so that also happens with the business, you know, instead of saying, okay, and taking a step back and really thinking about all right, what is the best option here? And typically the best option is the simplest answer. And that's what some people, you know, no, but they complicate things. And so a Brazilian it to a martial art is the same. It's like there all these fancy techniques and everything out there [00:38:00] that the thing is, okay, what are the tried and true? Not even techniques, but concepts. And I think that's another big thing too, in relation to martial artists. It's not that sparkly, little new tech technique out there. It's that concept. What is the concept behind how that works, understanding that looking at the foundational movements, whether that be for martial art, whether it be for business.

Speaker 3: Okay. And [00:38:30] if we're talking about anything, doesn't matter if it's business martial art, learning a language it's okay. Where do you need to start? What are the basics? And spend more time on those basics instead of jumping ahead into the next thing, because so many people out there that are like, oh yeah, I want to do this and put a little bit, and they're trying to prepare, but they're not ready for that. They're not even ready for like the next step yet. They still need to spend more time. So understanding also that it is going to take time [00:39:00] and giving yourself, allowing yourself that time. So I like to say this embrace the suck and what I mean by this. A lot of people misunderstand. What I mean is it's not that it's going to be hard and you have to be hard core. No, I'm not talking about that.

Speaker 3: Understand in the beginning you are going to suck. You are not going to be good, embrace that the quicker that you can say, okay, I suck, but in a positive way, okay. [00:39:30] Not be down on yourself, say, oh, I'm a hoarder. You know, not, not that, but be like, all right, you know, I really suck at this. Why do I suck at this? Cool. What did I learn today? What is one thing? One thing I learned today, and it's not, I'm not talking like the armbar. I'm not talking about, you know, I brought in a million dollar said, no, not that, but like, what is that one thing that you can take from today's lesson that you can apply to tomorrow's lesson, that's going to help you to move forward, suck faster. [00:40:00] That sounds really bad.

Speaker 3: But basically what I'm trying to say is that is understand that you are going to suck because you need to suck before you get good. And, um, a lot of people just try and rush through that. Uh, I would love to go back to being a white belt. You know, there's no expectations, you know, it's kinda, you still have that, that freedom and, you know, nobody expects anything of you as you get a little higher and higher people are kind of, you know, but the thing is, is if we can [00:40:30] also think about that and keep applying that as you get better and uh, you know, people talk about the beginner's eyes and blah, blah, blah, okay, whatever. Okay. I've heard it all, but it's, it is really trusting in that process, understanding that you're going to suck. And then once you get to that next progression, that next level understand it's going to be different.

Speaker 3: And the cool thing though, is when we progress, progression is not up. And then back down and sliding [00:41:00] back down, it's an upward spiral. So as you come back to those base sticks, you're understanding those basics on a higher level, whether it be business, whether it be language, whether it be whatever you're always coming back to those basics and you'll have a deeper understanding of those basics. Cause you're looking at it from a higher level. And so, um, especially in business, get comfortable being uncomfortable and really focus on, on the things that you just [00:41:30] learned. Why, why did that happen that way? Because like anything, if you don't know, you don't know, that's fine, you know? But once you do learn something, figure out why, why? I mean, I don't know, like if you really want to look at business and you want to grow your Instagram followers, it's not a matter of just posting, just good content.

Speaker 3: You know? I mean, that's extremely important. Great content is extremely important, but why are people connecting with you? [00:42:00] What is it about this particular post that is drawing so much attention? How can you use that to connect and help the viewers more? It's all about helping more people. A martial art is also the same. How can you help this person into a position so that you can choke them out? Right? So a lot of people think of it in the way of how can I put this person in is none. No, no, no. How can you lead that person into a particular position [00:42:30] so that it's effortless for you and effortless for them to do what you want. And it's always about the reframe for me. That's what I'm looking at. How can you reframe the way you look at something? Nothing is good or bad. It just is, but it depends on how you reframe it. And so when teaching that's the same thing is I don't want to, like right now, I'm talking a whole lot. The one I teach, I only give out one cue. I'm only, I'm going to try and help that person [00:43:00] give them one thing to focus on. That's going to hit the majority of all the stuff that I want them to do and make it easy for that person to be able to do that.

Speaker 2: So now I'll take a flip, I'll ask that same question, but rather than business, how has martial arts informed your relationship with your wife or your kids? Like,

Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. So this is great. [00:43:30] You have to be able to adapt. Uh, you never know who's going to be standing in front of you the way you need to use your martial art, you know, in a perfect world, the person who's saying in front of you would be, I don't even know, like someone that you've trained with before that you know exactly what they're going to do and you can deal with it. But the thing is, it doesn't work that way. It's in martial art. It's simply again, it's those concepts. Everybody talks about techniques. [00:44:00] Okay. But was it Mike Tyson? Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the nose, you know, it's like they go out the window. And so the thing is, is you need to understand, okay, what is, what are those core concepts? And do you truly have mastery over them?

Speaker 3: And mastery? What I mean is like, I'm talking about the Japanese version of mastery where today you've mastered something [00:44:30] and gotten a better hold on it. And you're working towards always getting better understanding of that. So it's a never ending process. It's an ever ending process. So using those concepts. So like for example, a marriage, I think I know my wife until I don't and I'm just like, oh. Okay. All right. Here's the new one. And it works the same way. It's like my daughter right now, she's 11 and she's [00:45:00] going through girl changes, woman changes. And I'm just like, holy, this is territory for me. So like, you know, looking at the martial arts side of it for me, it's basically like, all right, what can I do? Um, I can make sure that I'm confident in the sense that I control the things that I know I can control.

Speaker 3: And I let go of the things that I can't control. And I'm still working on that, man. I have a real, [00:45:30] I mean, we all have a hard time with that, but you know, it's, it's just trying to control the things I can control and not control others, if that makes sense. So, you know, let them be them instead of me react to what's going on. I act accordingly. And again, I'm still horrible at it, but, but, um, I don't know. I just, life would be so much easier if we could just all get on the mat. That's my way of looking at it because [00:46:00] I feel more comfortable being on the mat. I remember actually, here's a story. I can say this, like this is years ago. This is like a couple years after I got married. And I remember my mother-in-law came to a, and I was having a really hard time with business at the time.

Speaker 3: I mean, like failing miserably, like it was so bad. I remember my mother-in-law no, this was way before GMB. Okay. Yeah, this is before I knew Andy [00:46:30] or you know, anything. So I remember my mother-in-law came to my judo match and they came to a couple and I remember one day we're sitting. It was just, it ended up just being the two of us mother-in-law and I, and like, we'd never really talked too much. I mean, my mother-in-law, you know, just like sat down and she was like, how come you can step on the mat and have so much confidence, but then off the mat be such a horrible, horrible person, but do [00:47:00] so horribly at business. And I was just like, uh, and she's like, it's awareness to breathing and it's like talking about, and she schooled me and I'll never forget that. I mean, she was just like, you're not aware of what's going on.

Speaker 3: I was like, holy. And that's the thing. It was like, I was so comfortable and I knew exactly what I needed to do on the mat, even though it was an uncontrollable situation in terms of, [00:47:30] I didn't know what the opponent was going to do. I had a game plan and I knew what I could do. And so I just needed to learn how I could apply that off the bat. And that's something I'm still working on. And, you know, it's, it's one of those things where again, like I just said, I'm more comfortable moving and being on the mat than I am doing business and actually interacting with other people, which is kind of funny.

Speaker 2: You've managed to find something that you can use those skills and [00:48:00] make a living and support your family with.

Speaker 3: I am very lucky, man. I will say I am, you know, and I can't do anything else. I know that. I mean, all I know is how to move. That's really it, I've done it my whole life. And I've just been very lucky that I have Andean Jarlo that I was able to hook up with. They have the skills that I don't, and we're able to work together. The three of us and do this,

Speaker 2: You have your wife and kids bought into moving. Are your kids old enough [00:48:30] to care? They, they move like

Speaker 3: Very active, very active. A lot of people, you know, are like, oh wow. Yeah, Ryan, you know, Mr. GMB and you teach them. I'm like, I don't teach. I don't, I'm not coaching my kids. I think the best way to help is to just by showing. And so, you know, just kids know exactly what you're doing. They're going to mimic [00:49:00] you. If you're on your phone all day long, they're going to be on their phone or want a phone or something like that. If you're going to be moving around and enjoying life and doing things, they're going to be doing that too. So, you know, my wife and I are firm believers in just simply leading by example. And, um, again, we're not perfect at all. I mean, there are times where I'm just like, Ugh, I just want to say a couch. I'm tired, you know? And that's great, whatever, but my kids are very active. My daughter's on the junior [00:49:30] Olympic swim team, but again, I don't coach her, you know, that's not my job. So I just encourage her and do what I can. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Th this is a little off topic. I missed the segue into it, but I'm curious because, so as Gary Vaynerchuk would say that, uh, the internet has democratized opportunity for people and a lot of people want to be, you know, influencers and just like, you know, [00:50:00] back in the day. Um, but do you, do you feel comfortable with that title and if yes, how do you know there's a teacher? You feel like you're an influencer?

Speaker 3: I mean, so this is something that's been really tough for me. Um, this is something actually, that's been tough for GMB. I've never been the kind of person to like show off. I've never been the kind of person who's like, Hey, look at me. Yeah. I'm like, awesome. I have a really hard time with that. Um, Andy and Jarlo, they used to always get on my case. [00:50:30] I'm like, dude, you need to be showing off more. You need more confidence, you know, kind of thing. And again, it was one of those things where I'm like, it's never really been me, um, to do that. Interestingly enough, over the past couple of years, I'm very comfortable with it, but I don't want to say showing off it's, I'm very comfortable with myself, if that makes sense. And so, so now, uh, the [00:51:00] big change for me to be honest was I stopped giving a, what people thought of me and I care, I care in how I can help other people.

Speaker 3: I don't care what they think of me, if that makes sense. And so like, wonder how you got there. Well, it was very easy. It, it for me, well, it wasn't easy. I'm sorry, but like that turning point, I know exactly when it, when it was, [00:51:30] and this was a doctor who had been, uh, closer to about, um, what is it I would say about five years ago. Um, I got sick of reading the comments on YouTube. I just, I was just like, people can be real. You know, I was like, and I just decided, I'm like, okay, I can let this get to me. Or I can like, just be me and help the other people that want to be helped. And I need my help. You [00:52:00] know what I mean? That's really, that was a change. It wasn't that people were horrible or anything like that, but it's just like, you got these, these keyboard coaches out there and I'm just like, like they know nothing about me, you know, my background, whatever.

Speaker 3: People just always feel that they need to comment. And I was like, I'm not going to get involved with that anymore. And that was, that was when things changed. And I was just like, I don't really care what you say about me. I really don't. [00:52:30] All I care is, is what we're doing here in GMB, helping you or not. That's all I care about. Yeah. Yeah. And that's really what it changed for me. And so that's why now I just can be myself. So I mean, influencer, yeah. People are mentioned that to me and I'm like, great. That's really cool. And I do feel that I do have a responsibility, um, to do that in a way that that's positive and helpful for people. And so that's like, if you look at my Instagram [00:53:00] or Facebook or something, so this is an interesting thing too, is, you know, I own an internet company actually hate being on social media.

Speaker 3: I hate it. I hate it. Except for the fact, you know, like with you, I get to meet you and we can, you know, talk mainly just me jabbing away. But, but like, there are some really great people and you know, the opportunity to be on Instagram. Um, I enjoy Instagram. I'm not a big fan of Facebook, [00:53:30] uh, just simply because it's gotten kind of weird and some things, you know, but YouTube comments. But, but what I mean is if you look at my Instagram account, um, I'm never going to bad mouth, a person never going to bad mouth, another person, I'm never going to comment about what I feel a particular person should be doing and how they should act. Cause I don't know that person, you know, that's their prerogative and, and how they want to do stuff. So, you know, I share some things about [00:54:00] me and my life and hopefully that can inspire other people to do things.

Speaker 3: But again, I'm not trying to tell people how to do things. I'm just trying to, like I mentioned before lead by example and saying, okay, I'm 46 years old, married have two kids. I live in a different country. I've had like way too many surgeries. I've learned a lot. I'm not perfect. I have to wear reading glasses now, you know, but I can still move, you know, I can still do the stuff that I want to do. And I'm just trying to enjoy my life. And [00:54:30] if, if I can be an inspiration and help you to do the things that you want to be doing, cool, let me help you. You know, that's really is for me. So I never started out wanting to be the coach or, or, you know, do Ru we hate that word. I'm not a fricking guru. Okay. I don't even like being called coach, you know, it's, it's Ryan, you know, and you know, it's like, I'm just dude, [00:55:00] you know, who happened to be doing this stuff and I just want to help other people.

Speaker 3: So really that's in my life right now. It's a little bit different, I guess you could say, you know, as you get older, you kind of hit that point. And I'm kind of at that point in my life where it's more about a service, if that makes sense in terms of like, you know, um, it's, I'm not saying I've done with where I want to go with my life, but now it's really more focused on how I can be more helpful [00:55:30] to other people and a once again kind of babbling, but this is a topic though that I, that I get asked every once in a while and it's, you're such an influencer and I'm like, Ooh, hold on just a second. That's great. But that, wasn't, you know, my main goal for doing this. So

Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think the title until I heard it framed to use your expression in a way that made sense to me, which was, you know, authors in the 17th century were influencers, [00:56:00] influencing people, inspiring people. So to the extent that that definition applies, I think you're a wonderful influencer. Um, so I want to ask you about, uh, your growing up and your kids growing up, like you grew up in Wichita, Kansas, which my grandmother was miss Kansas city, Pepsi Cola back in the nineties, something by the way. Cool. Right.

Speaker 3: Very cool.

Speaker 2: And then your, your [00:56:30] kids are growing up in Japan. You grew up in Kansas, like with exception to the context difference of internet, no internet and all these things, like what are some of the backstory? Yeah. What are some of the contexts differences that play to your advantage versus theirs and vice versa?

Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. So this is a big thing, uh, that my wife and I talk quite a bit about. So me growing up, I was outdoors all the time. I mean, pretty much. I mean, I was, you know, boy scout, Eagle scout. [00:57:00] When I wasn't doing gymnastics, I was outside playing, you know, we come from a generation, I don't know how old you are, but like for me, I grew up, remember I'm a hot wheels, hot wheels, but like say again,

Speaker 2: 36, 36.

Speaker 3: Yeah. So 10 years apart. Yeah. And so growing up, I mean, still, we didn't wear helmets when we were on a bike and stuff like that. So I was like, you know, climb trees and jump in the Creek and the Creek, depending on where you're from, you know? So like, you know, that was [00:57:30] me and, and I still, okay. I was either going to come to Japan or I was going to go into mountain rescue that's, that's basically what I wanted to do. I wanted it, I wanted the outdoor side of things. So that, that was like, so I was kinda like, alright, I can always go back. You know, I do the rescue or the [00:58:00] mountain side of thing, but the opportunity to go to Japan, I should try and do that, you know, end up staying. Right. So like, I still have that in me.

Speaker 3: And if you look at my Instagram, you'll see like every week I'm out there hiking and you know, I'm out there in the outdoors. I'm very much into orientation, you know, land navigation, uh, not a prepper or anything like that, but like just, you know, the survival sense of like being able to go out and, and just drop me anywhere. I want to be able [00:58:30] to like handle it. And I'm talking, not just outdoors, I'm talking to any city in the world or whatnot is so the language side of that also is huge with me, the communication and being able to handle yourself. So, so really for me, it's not just about one thing. It's about being a kind of a complete person. And that's why language is important. For me, communication, being able to adapt, being able to understand situations, situational awareness, being able to handle yourself in certain [00:59:00] circumstances.

Speaker 3: Very important to me. And so what I'm getting at is if we're to look at where my kids are growing up right now, we live in the safest country in the world, right? It's down, hands down, Barry, different from how I grew up in a sense, I remember fighting. I remember, you know, being in certain circumstances in places where you're like, holy, I really shouldn't be here right now. But you kind of, you know, even though I come from a smaller town, having [00:59:30] lived all over the world and traveled and stuff, you get that street sense. Right. Kids don't have that. So this is something that I don't want to say bothers me, but it's something that I'm always trying to work with with my kids. Okay. Um, I don't force my kids to do anything. We play games, we do things like one thing, when we get on the trains here, you know, we'll get on the train and then later I'll say, okay, what color [01:00:00] was the jacket of the person that was standing directly behind you or something like that.

Speaker 3: And so just trying to make these games so that they think, you know, uh, it's game kind of thing, but actually creating and helping them with situational awareness, just being aware, uh, we're going to, we're finally going on a family vacation that we've been waiting for like three years to go on. We're going on next week. And the kids know that, okay, this is not Japan. And so we'll this week we've been reviewing things. Okay. You know, don't just [01:00:30] go off by yourself. If this happens, this, this, this, this is not being paranoid. It's just, again like situational awareness and things that you don't know that the kids aren't used to, I'm trying to help them. So the other thing too is, is what you mentioned as well.

Speaker 3: I come from Kansas, which is not a huge metropolitan area, Wichita to one of the largest cities in the world, which is absolutely bonkers, [01:01:00] just crazy amount of people, information overload, just intense. And I gotta be honest. It drives me crazy. And the only reason that I'm still here in Osaka is for my family. That's it? Because if it were up to me, I'd be gone like any many, many years ago anyway, different story. But thing is, I think it's very good that my kids are getting this, this exposure to being in this sort of city. And the thing is this, [01:01:30] I'm not trying to cram things down their throat and think that they need to study something or be a particular way, because if I can do it and have both, then I know that they can do it as well. Language is the same thing.

Speaker 3: My kids understand English, but they don't speak English at a level that's very high at all to be able to communicate what they want. A lot of people tell me, they're like, that's a responsible of you. You're a native English speaker. [01:02:00] Why can't they speak English? Well, for one thing, we live in Japan, no one speaks English. Okay. I'm just like, they're Japanese great is there's phenomenal. Whatever. The other thing that I think is too, I speak multiple languages. I learned that later in life, if I can do it, then my kids are gonna be able to do it too. And so what I'm kinda getting at is, is like, it's always going to be different as [01:02:30] we move, you know, into, you know, 20, 20, 20, 21, you know, 20, 30 things are going to be increasing even at a faster pace for what we're used to.

Speaker 3: I think it's very important to have multiple experiences and then to allow children to grow up the way that it's going to be good for that particular area that they're in. Um, with that being said, we're actually looking at moving somewhere else with [01:03:00] the family. Because another thing with GMB where some very lucky is I don't need to be in one place. We're an international or where a internet company, which means I can literally live anywhere. That's where we're going to be doing. So that's something, you know, it kind of get where I'm going here. Is that very happy that we're here in Osaka, they have this experience, but what my wife and I are going to try and do is go to some other places so they can have other experiences and gain some knowledge, um, so that they can be [01:03:30] well-rounded,

Speaker 2: It's a, it's a great opportunity to ask about, uh, education. I don't know anything about the education system in Japan. Um, I have opinions here, but like, how do you feel about education and schooling and you know, their trajectory with that? And just generally.

Speaker 3: Yeah. So, uh, they go to a public school, which we think is great. Um, a lot of people are like, why don't they go to international school, blah, blah, blah. Well, for one, I'm not going to pay $10,000, [01:04:00] you know, like a month, that's a little exaggeration, but I mean, it might as well be that much. Yeah. I just, I dunno, man. It's, it's, it's it's um, yes. I mean, they could go to different school, private school, whatnot, but Publix wasn't great. Uh, I want them to be kids. That's the thing over in Japan, once they hit a certain age and my D once they become junior high students, it's basically, they, they start into the robot life [01:04:30] where, okay, we got to start thinking about college. So you're going to go to school all day. And then you're going to go to cram school in the evening so that you can get into a good college so that you can end up working for a company and be a robot, the rest of your life.

Speaker 3: My wife and I are not into that. We're not, we, you know, we, again want them to be kids. We want them to have as many experiences as possible. And to be honest, we don't want to decide and make decisions for them thinking, [01:05:00] oh, you're going to be a doctor. So therefore, this is what you're going to do. We're trying to give them as many different experiences as possible so that they can become interested in something. And so that they can move into what they want to be doing. If they don't go to college, we're perfectly fine with that. However, do want them to have a skill. And so that is very big. Uh, you know, my wife and I very much believe in that. So let's say maybe they don't go to college, but maybe they want to, they want to, I have [01:05:30] no idea.

Speaker 3: Have a sushi restaurant. Okay, great. Well then you should become an apprentice for the best possible sushi chef. I don't think call him a chef, but sushi guy or woman out there so that you can gain that experience. And it's going to help you to be able to be even better down the road. So that's what I'm really into. And so, you know, same with me. I don't do things. Half-ass, um, when I do something, [01:06:00] I want to learn as much about it as I can. Um, you know, it's not a matter of me trying to be the best. I simply want to be the best I can for what I need and for how I want to be. And I want that for my kids as well.

Speaker 2: Actually, that's, that's one of my favorite topics you just touched on as being the best you can. I talk to me about what your self improvement journey is in relation to parenting.

Speaker 3: Yeah. And yeah, [01:06:30] that's really good. That's a huge topic, especially in a multicultural, you know, family. So this is what's different too, because there's some times where I might get upset for my kids doing something where my wife is like, why are you upset? And I'm, and she gets upset. And I'm like, why are you upset over that? It's a cultural thing. And so, so this is also comes back to communication and having an understanding for each other. And this isn't just about culture. It's also about man and woman in that particular person's upbringing and their values [01:07:00] and things like that. So, you know, just because I do something one way, my wife knows that that's not the way that it's always done in the United States. And so, um, as far as the way that we study in the way we do things is we're, we're trying to always be open and say, okay, well, why did you do that?

Speaker 3: And then try and learn a little bit more about, okay, that's why Ryan did it, but it stems from this or [01:07:30] this. And then, and then for example, if there is something that we completely don't agree on, then we'll be like, okay, well let's try and figure out the best option for what's going on. And so as far as education for us, that's how it is. And so it's not that we're trying to look at mathematics or something like that. It's more along the lines of trying to look at communication and the reason behind why certain decisions are made, and then trying to think about what is going to be good, [01:08:00] not just for us, but for our kids, as you know, having two cultures, you know, for some of the other things that, that we're hoping to do in our lives. So very different than what my wife is going through right now, uh, that her friends are because her friends right now, seriously, it's ridiculous. They're like, why aren't you putting CNS, CNS my daughter, why aren't you bringing CNN cram school right now? [01:08:30] Why would you not do that? That's ridiculous. You know, and, and, and it's tough because my wife and I are very adamant about we're not gonna do that. You know, we're, you know,

Speaker 2: So is that kind of like a, like a, like a cultural pressure, like most people

Speaker 3: Very much that's how it is. That is how it is. Why would you do anything different? Uh, the martial arts side, I think too is, is, is like that as well. You know, the judo it's like, well, this is how we've always done it. Therefore, this is how we're going to do it, [01:09:00] you know? And it's not until a couple of years, uh, you know, it started to change. So like you see judo guys now, high level, very, very high level judo guys now studying in age is it's it, you know, like cross training sort of thing, and eat. I mean like little things like that. Like why would you do that? You know, anyway, but it's tough. I think, you know, raising kids is so difficult and again, we don't have all the answers. We're still learning. Um, [01:09:30] you know, even, you know, Jarlo and Andy w we do it very differently. We don't tell each other how we think we should be doing it because it's not my position to tell Andy how I feel he should raise his kid. So

Speaker 2: What impact has having kids made on you?

Speaker 3: Oh my God. Oh my goodness. I never thought I was going to get married. I didn't want to get married and I never wanted to have kids. Both of those things have been the best thing [01:10:00] for me ever. I was so high, strong, you know, I was like, what was your art? I will tie you in a pretzel. Um, having kids is actually taught me restraint and, um, you know, and I will say, you know, even, you know, people who are listening to this who know me really well, they're just like, dude, even up until a year ago, you're [01:10:30] fricking intense, man. And I apologize, but thing it's is like truly, you know, looking at my kids. And sometimes, I mean, you're, you know what I'm talking about? Sometimes this is going to sound horrible. I mean, you want to strangle them. You're just usually like, okay, you're done, you're done living in this world.

Speaker 3: You will cease to exist right now, you know, but, but you know, of course you wouldn't hopefully, but it's just like, seriously, did you just fricking do that? But then you got to do they all, okay, [01:11:00] I'm going to calm down. So, so the one thing that I'm really, um, my wife and I talked a lot about this. And so over the past, um, I guess it was, what's been a year and a half now. So our big thing was, we're not going to get angry at the kids unless we really need to. And I tell you what, man, that, that is the hardest thing that I think I've ever done in my life. I mean, I've gone through some pretty hard training and been beaten down like [01:11:30] pretty, but man, try not to get angry at my daughter when she's being a little, I'll tell you what man. It is great. And so it's one of those things too, where, you know, even just last night, I remember I'm just like, all right. So she was, she just lost it. Right. And I'm just like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try and be Zen here for a second. Just take a sit back and I'm just gonna listen to her. And then we're going to try and talk [01:12:00] about it. And it actually worked out okay. Instead of me just being like, you need to call down,

Speaker 2: Well, I got your old girl, so what, what am I in for the next six years?

Speaker 3: I don't even know if I should tell you just because like girls, I mean, it's, it's wild man. And I, and I mean, having my daughter, I mean, she's me, it is a little me right there and I feel so bad [01:12:30] for that girl. I tell you what, my son is a little version of my, um, uh, my wife, which is, which is a really good thing. But, but yeah, I mean, I think girls, it's, it's one of those things where it's like, daddy's little girl. That's just how it is. And, and they're so cute and they're just wonderful. But my daughter's at this age right now, where you hit that point where it's, daddy's stinky [01:13:00] his clothes. I don't want washed, I don't want my clothes washed with daddy's clothes anymore. Um, no, don't don't hug me. No, but why didn't you hug me?

Speaker 3: You know, it's like, whoa, crap. You know what I mean? And so, no, I get it. I work out all the time and I know I stink and all this stuff, but wow. You know, it was just like, it just kills you break your home. Yeah. It does break your heart, but you got to understand, okay, she's growing up. It's totally cool. [01:13:30] And you just gotta just try and be the best. And, and there's certain things where like, why does she get angry about that? And you got to understand what she's a little woman. And then when I tell myself that everything's cool. And um, anyway, so that's what you're in for man. It's going to be so much fun. You're going to love it. Okay.

Speaker 2: Yeah. I got a four year old boy and a five-year-old girl that there'll be that agent September and every other night, my wife and I switch reading books. [01:14:00] We just flip flop every single night for two years. And, or for as long as they've been around. And every single night, the one that I read to is devastated. Oh, mommy's got to read me the book. It ripped my heart out for a year and now I don't care at all. And it just sucks for you. Dad's gonna read you a book and it's going to be horrible though. The whole time.

Speaker 3: That's exactly how I did too, man. And I think all dads out there, [01:14:30] once you get it, you're just like, that's how it is.

Speaker 2: I mean, after you read the book, they give you a hug and a kiss goodnight and a perfectly.

Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. And the big thing for me though, was last year when my daughter was like, daddy, I need an iPhone. Now. It was just like, no, you're, you're not even getting a phone, you know, like kind of thing, but yeah, little things like that growing up, and then I can just see, you know, coming down the road, Hey daddy, I need a dress for prom. And I was just like, nah, [01:15:00] I don't, I don't want to know that you're dating, you know, any of that kind of stuff. So

Speaker 3: Go, jeez. Yeah. Kids are great though. I tell you it's it's thanks. You know, my wife, my wife has really allowed me to learn more about myself. Um, especially my faults. I have a lot, but you know, the communication side of things, hopefully getting better. I still have trouble. Of course, you [01:15:30] know, but kids though a whole different other kinds of communication. Right. And, um, having staff as well, you know, in a company and trying to do that, I'm lucky. I actually, I don't manage anyone anymore at all. I don't, I, um, I don't do that. Uh, I focus on the programming side of things and coaching and, and creating and things. So I'm very lucky, uh, with that. But, um, during the time that I was managing people, oh my God. So difficult, [01:16:00] you know, managing is not my thing at all, but I'm really glad I went there because it taught me a lot about my weaknesses and, and things that I need to improve. And, uh, I I've worked to try and do that. And it has helped me in my family as well with how I deal in how I deal with the kids and my wife as well. So it's really interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Hello. I'm going to jump into a, kind of the, I ask all these questions to [01:16:30] every person that I interview kind of, sort of rapid fire, short answer questions. So the first one I'll ask is what is your greatest hope for your children?

Speaker 3: That they find some that they really love and are able to continue doing it and, um, making a living at doing it. That's what I hope for.

Speaker 2: Uh, if you were writing a book about your life as a parent, what would be the name of some of the chapters?

Speaker 3: [01:17:00] Oh my goodness. How not to make a fool of yourself. And the next chapter would be how to make a bigger fool of yourself. I actually think if you can't laugh at yourself, then you're not enjoying life. Yeah.

Speaker 2: Awesome. So I don't, I don't know that anybody would understand this answer if you don't have, I don't know if you probably watch mostly Japanese television [01:17:30] movies. I don't know. Is there a favorite TV or movie dad that you have?

Speaker 3: Oh, man. Um, I actually don't watch any Japanese stuff anymore. It just kind of drives me crazy. I used to, that's how I learned a lot of my Japanese, but I don't watch any Japanese stuff anymore. Movies. Wow. Favorite two kind of random things. So like one of my favorite movie is the gram there. I think it's called in English, the big blue, the grant anyway, [01:18:00] around blue it's, uh, it's uh, is, uh, it was originally a French movie, but it's it's uh, the grand blue maybe is what it's called. It's about freedom or jock mile, um, uh, free diving. It's pretty old movie. Um, the guy from the movie, the professional. Oh, actually I think it's called

Speaker 2: Something different. I know who you're talking about.

Speaker 3: Yeah. Leon. Yeah. Anyway, same guy he's in Nat. Uh, it's old a movie, the big blues, maybe it was called, [01:18:30] but in French is liger and blue. Uh, I love that movie. And then, uh, this is, you know, completely different kind of movie, John wick, man. Those, I love those movies and what I love about it is not the violence, but the fact, you know, Kiana Reeves, I mean, he's spent so much time learning these moves and, and, and, uh, just loved that. So every time I watched that, I'm like,

Speaker 2: Yeah, I've, I've, I've seen so many videos of behind the scenes where Keanu, everybody [01:19:00] has good stuff to say. I asked the question poorly. Um, who's your favorite television or movie father.

Speaker 3: Oh, father, I'm sorry. Oh my goodness. Um, I would say Steve Martin. And, um, what was that movie? The, um,

Speaker 2: Parenthood father, the

Speaker 3: Father of the bride, like parenthood, father bride, Steve Martin. It's like, I remember watching that years ago and not, I thought it was a good movie, but not until I had kids [01:19:30] and my kids start getting a little older. Did I just finally go out? Oh my God, that's it. I totally get that.

Speaker 2: Yeah. That's awesome. So when do you feel the most love in your life?

Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. This is, well, I wouldn't say it's tough. I think when I feel the most love in my life is when my family is not hurried and I [01:20:00] think that's about it. And the reason I say that is because our lives are so fast paced. I think everybody out there is probably the same, but I think it's when we're actually able all to like calm down and it's just chill. I think that is when the most love is. I wouldn't say it's a certain thing. I say it's a matter of us all being able to be together and be relaxed. So I think that's why I'm looking so forward to, uh, being able to be on our vacation next week, [01:20:30] because I know that we'll be able to be together and I have to worry about swim practice and all the other stuff that's in our life. And I'm taking off from work. I'm taking finally taking time off work, so we'll just be able to be. And so I think that'll be it.

Speaker 2: Yeah. That's awesome. Well, if you had an opportunity to give a gift to every single father in whatever way, shape or form, what gift might you give to every father

Speaker 3: Sleep

Speaker 2: [01:21:00] Say what's their major highway going through Osaka?

Speaker 3: Oh my God. Yes.

Speaker 2: You got a billboard on this highway. There not everybody going a hundred miles an hour has to be able to read it. So what advice would you give to all dads that would fit on that billboard

Speaker 3: Breathe, breathe, breathe, like takes like, and because you only had like [01:21:30] a chance to just look at it. I would say breathe because I think that so many of us are like, they just exhale, I think might be the what I would say.

Speaker 2: All right. So this will be, uh, my, my last question to you, but first let me thank you so much for your time. Uh, and it's awesome talking to you. Yeah. Tell me, what's tell me your, uh, website.

Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's G [01:22:00] M B fitness dot I O. And so I need just any of the social media or whatever, just type in GMB. Fitness will pop right up.

Speaker 2: All right. So my last question in the event that this recording lasts forever, what message could you give to your kids and their kids and the kids and their kids? 15 generations Hearst

Speaker 3: Move more and explore more. That's what I would say. [01:22:30] Love more, explore more.


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